Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by Dare Shah » Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:34 pm

"What about indirect applications of magic? Using cheaper, simpler spells not to predict the future directly, but to enhance one's ability to deduce what will happen?

The combat example is probably the simplest there. To which degree battle prediction does a better job than enhanced senses? I guess it depends highly of the situation and the person? Instinctively, it seems like a beginner would get more about a spell triggering a mental alarm's bell for them, while a veteran could better put their experience to use if enhanced differently."
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by L'Orr-hui » Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:01 pm

''They are quite useful but they enhance your senses abilities rather then add to them. You can perceive an ambush better with enhanced sight but you reaction time will be the same. The downside of the enhance spell is that the spell ends when the concentration is broken. My precognitive spell has no such limitation. Still any advantage is better then none.''

''You can use both, of course, and they will offer multiplicative benefit''
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by Dare Shah » Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:26 pm

"A perception enhancing spell requiring concentration? Isn't that counterproductive? What insight you gain from the magic, you lose by having to reserve a good deal of your brain to maintaining the spell?

I guess a way to circumvent that is to use sense enhancing artifacts instead. I was planning to add some to my research armor at some point actually, if only so I don't have to get the magnifying glass out so frequently.

Which however raises the question: Can you similarly attune a precognition enchantment to an item? In particular, in a way that doesn't magically recharging it regularly?"
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by L'Orr-hui » Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:18 pm

''Discipline will make you able to use such spell without much problem, until something drastic happens that is''

There was a pause as the Flayer pondered the question

''There could be ways but research and materials would be needed.''
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by Dare Shah » Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:13 pm

"This can be arranged. Yet I am surprised this is not already something well researched and standardized. It sounds like the kind of equipment any skilled warrior would pay good money for. Anything increasing the chances of getting out of the next fight unharmed is worth more than its weight in mithril."
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by L'Orr-hui » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:40 pm

''Not all spell translate well to steel or apparel'' the flayer replied with simplicity ''Some simply don't''
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by Dare Shah » Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:42 pm

"You appeared to be suggesting that you could do it though. Did I misunderstand? And if not, what would be your personal edge opening the path to success where others have failed?"
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by L'Orr-hui » Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:38 pm

''I did not try yet so the coin of success and failure has not been flipped yet.'' they replied calmly ''Artifice is not my primary concern. I am reticent to delve into a project that will not serve my ultimate goals.''
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by Dare Shah » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:15 am

"Which is?

Not to be nosy, but it seems than any further cooperation will be impossible without that particular knowledge first being shared."
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Re: Precognition versus prediction [D1LA] (Expecting)

Post by L'Orr-hui » Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:35 pm

''Ah...My designs are complicated and uncertain. Most of all it is a sensitive thing that I cannot speak about, my apologies.''
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